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Derivative instruments and hedging activities - AOCI Rollforward (Details)
$ in Thousands, MMBbls in Millions
12 Months Ended
Jul. 31, 2025
USD ($)
MMBbls
Jul. 31, 2024
USD ($)
Jul. 31, 2023
USD ($)
Derivative instruments and hedging activities      
Partners' capital balance $ (949,688) $ (898,791) $ (887,811)
Change in value of risk management commodity derivatives 6,258 3,448 (48,034)
Reclassification of losses on commodity hedges to cost of sales - propane and other gas liquids sales, net (8,400) (2,472) 10,810
Partners' capital balance (1,029,128) (949,688) (898,791)
Reclassification of net gain to earnings during next 12 months 100    
Gain (loss) on discontinuation of cash flow hedge due to forecasted transaction probable of not occurring, net $ 0 0 0
Number of barrels of propane covered by cash flow hedges | MMBbls 4.1    
Accumulated Gain (Loss), Cash Flow Hedge, Including Noncontrolling Interest      
Derivative instruments and hedging activities      
Partners' capital balance $ 2,059 1,083 38,307
Change in value of risk management commodity derivatives 6,258 3,448 (48,034)
Reclassification of losses on commodity hedges to cost of sales - propane and other gas liquids sales, net (8,400) (2,472) 10,810
Partners' capital balance (83) 2,059 1,083
Ferrellgas, L.P.      
Derivative instruments and hedging activities      
Partners' capital balance (950,011) (898,851) (887,826)
Change in value of risk management commodity derivatives 6,258 3,448 (48,034)
Reclassification of losses on commodity hedges to cost of sales - propane and other gas liquids sales, net (8,400) (2,472) 10,810
Partners' capital balance (1,028,919) (950,011) (898,851)
Ferrellgas, L.P. | Accumulated Gain (Loss), Cash Flow Hedge, Including Noncontrolling Interest      
Derivative instruments and hedging activities      
Partners' capital balance 2,025 1,059 37,907
Change in value of risk management commodity derivatives 6,258 3,448 (48,034)
Reclassification of losses on commodity hedges to cost of sales - propane and other gas liquids sales, net (8,400) (2,472) 10,810
Less: amount attributable to noncontrolling interests (22) 10 (376)
Partners' capital balance $ (95) $ 2,025 $ 1,059