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Guarantor financial information - Statements of Earnings (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
3 Months Ended 9 Months Ended
Apr. 30, 2020
Jan. 31, 2020
Oct. 31, 2019
Apr. 30, 2019
Jan. 31, 2019
Oct. 31, 2018
Apr. 30, 2020
Apr. 30, 2019
Revenues:                
Revenues $ 412,130     $ 479,625     $ 1,216,177 $ 1,405,311
Costs and expenses:                
Operating expense - personnel, vehicle, plant and other 121,558     119,991     364,334 351,541
Depreciation and amortization expense 20,366     20,617     59,380 59,214
General and administrative expense 12,560     11,516     36,447 42,037
Operating expense - equipment lease expense 8,075           24,724  
Equipment lease expense, preadoption       8,319       24,597
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 757     (4)     2,182 4,688
Loss on extinguishment of debt 37,399           37,399  
Loss on asset sales and disposals 1,859     1,683     6,242 8,403
Operating Income (Loss) 67,950     64,794     164,958 139,986
Interest expense (45,703)     (44,162)     (138,948) (132,931)
Other income (expense), net (158)     251     (214) 356
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (15,310)     20,883     (11,603) 7,411
Income tax expense (benefit) 161     123     794 284
Net earnings (loss) (15,471) $ 48,791 $ (45,717) 20,760 $ 43,875 $ (57,508) (12,397) 7,127
Other comprehensive income (loss) 2,572 (2,555) (6,148) 8,286 (17,273) (12,587) (6,131) (21,574)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest (12,899)     29,046     (18,528) (14,447)
Propane [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues 391,745     459,556     1,150,377 1,344,634
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales 176,265     250,389     548,136 766,056
Other Revenues                
Revenues:                
Revenues 20,385     20,069     65,800 60,677
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales 2,740     2,320     9,774 8,789
Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues 412,130     479,625     1,216,177 1,405,311
Costs and expenses:                
Operating expense - personnel, vehicle, plant and other 121,558     119,991     364,334 351,541
Depreciation and amortization expense 20,366     20,617     59,380 59,214
General and administrative expense 12,555     11,512     36,336 42,028
Operating expense - equipment lease expense 8,075           24,724  
Equipment lease expense, preadoption       8,319       24,597
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 757     (4)     2,182 4,688
Loss on extinguishment of debt 37,399           37,399  
Loss on asset sales and disposals 1,859     1,683     6,242 8,403
Operating Income (Loss) 67,955     64,798     165,069 139,995
Interest expense (38,006)     (35,395)     (113,573) (106,740)
Other income (expense), net (158)     251     (214) 356
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (7,608)     29,654     13,883 33,611
Income tax expense (benefit) 112     100     745 254
Net earnings (loss) (7,720) 57,756 (36,898) 29,554 52,617 (48,814) 13,138 33,357
Other comprehensive income (loss) 2,572 $ (2,555) $ (6,148) 8,286 $ (17,273) $ (12,587) (6,131) (21,574)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest (5,148)     37,840     7,007 11,783
Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Propane [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues 391,745     459,556     1,150,377 1,344,634
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales 176,265     250,389     548,136 766,056
Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Other Revenues                
Revenues:                
Revenues 20,385     20,069     65,800 60,677
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales 2,740     2,320     9,774 8,789
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues 412,130           1,216,177  
Costs and expenses:                
Operating expense - personnel, vehicle, plant and other 121,558     124,078     364,334 355,589
Depreciation and amortization expense 20,252     20,506     59,043 58,880
General and administrative expense 12,555     11,511     36,332 42,022
Operating expense - equipment lease expense 8,075           24,724  
Equipment lease expense, preadoption       8,319       24,597
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 757     (4)     2,182 4,688
Loss on extinguishment of debt 37,399           37,399  
Loss on asset sales and disposals 1,859     1,683     6,242 5,724
Operating Income (Loss) 68,069     60,823     165,410 139,031
Interest expense (36,943)     (34,206)     (110,412) (103,209)
Other income (expense), net (158)     278     (214) 393
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (6,431)     26,895     17,385 36,215
Income tax expense (benefit) 112     (49)     745 105
Equity in earnings (loss) of Ferrellgas, L.P. (1,140)     392     (2,798) (2,753)
Net earnings (loss) (7,683)     27,336     13,842 33,357
Other comprehensive income (loss) 2,572     8,286     (6,131) (21,574)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest (5,111)     35,622     7,711 11,783
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member] | Propane [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues 391,745           1,150,377  
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales 176,265           548,136  
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member] | Other Revenues                
Revenues:                
Revenues 20,385           65,800  
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales 2,740           9,774  
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Subsidiary Issuer [Member]                
Costs and expenses:                
General and administrative expense       1     4 6
Operating Income (Loss)       (1)     (4) (6)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes       (1)     (4) (6)
Net earnings (loss)       (1)     (4) (6)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest       (1)     (4) (6)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]                
Costs and expenses:                
Operating expense - personnel, vehicle, plant and other       (3)       36
Loss on asset sales and disposals               2,679
Operating Income (Loss)       3       (2,780)
Interest expense               (38)
Other income (expense), net       (27)       (37)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes       (24)       (2,855)
Income tax expense (benefit)       149       149
Net earnings (loss)       (173)       (3,004)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest       (173)       (3,004)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Non-Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]                
Costs and expenses:                
Operating expense - personnel, vehicle, plant and other 1,314     968       3,869
Depreciation and amortization expense 114     111     337 334
Operating expense - equipment lease expense             3,249  
Operating Income (Loss) (1,428)     (1,079)     (3,586) (4,203)
Interest expense (1,063)     (1,189)     (3,161) (3,493)
Other income (expense), net 1,351     2,834     3,953 7,953
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (1,140)     566     (2,794) 257
Net earnings (loss) (1,140)     566     (2,794) 257
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest (1,140)     566     (2,794) 257
Eliminations [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member]                
Costs and expenses:                
Operating expense - personnel, vehicle, plant and other (1,314)     (5,052)       (7,953)
Operating expense - equipment lease expense             (3,249)  
Operating Income (Loss) 1,314     5,052     3,249 7,953
Other income (expense), net (1,351)     (2,834)     (3,953) (7,953)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (37)     2,218     (704)  
Equity in earnings (loss) of Ferrellgas, L.P. 1,140     (392)     2,798 2,753
Net earnings (loss) 1,103     1,826     2,094 2,753
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest $ 1,103     1,826     $ 2,094 2,753
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Other Revenues                
Revenues:                
Revenues       20,069       60,677
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       479,625       1,405,311
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Propane [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       459,556       1,344,634
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales       250,389       766,056
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Other Revenues                
Revenues:                
Revenues       20,069       60,677
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales       2,320       8,789
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       479,625       1,405,262
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member] | Propane [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       459,556       1,344,634
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales       250,389       766,056
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member] | Other Revenues                
Revenues:                
Revenues       20,069       60,628
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales       $ 2,320       8,675
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues               49
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member] | Other Revenues                
Revenues:                
Revenues               49
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales               $ 114