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Guarantor financial information - Statements of Earnings (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
3 Months Ended 9 Months Ended
Apr. 30, 2019
Jan. 31, 2019
Oct. 31, 2018
Apr. 30, 2018
Jan. 31, 2018
Oct. 31, 2017
Apr. 30, 2019
Apr. 30, 2018
Revenues:                
Revenues $ 479,625     $ 515,810     $ 1,405,311 $ 1,725,621
Costs and expenses:                
Operating expense 119,991     116,579     351,541 350,757
Depreciation and amortization expense 20,617     25,348     59,214 76,565
General and administrative expense 11,516     11,678     42,037 39,733
Equipment lease expense 8,319     7,133     24,597 20,828
DQC NEVER NEGATIVE Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge (4)     2,738     4,688 10,731
Asset impairment charges               10,005
Loss on asset sales and disposals 1,683     6,270     8,403 46,414
Operating Income (Loss) 64,794     51,277     139,986 83,687
Interest expense (44,162)     (40,375)     (132,931) (123,855)
Other income (expense), net 251     227     356 1,422
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 20,883     11,129     7,411 (38,746)
Income tax expense (benefit) 123     67     284 282
Net earnings (loss) 20,760 $ 43,875 $ (57,508) 11,062 $ (1,774) $ (48,316) 7,127 (39,028)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 8,286 (17,273) (12,587) (6,727) (8,671) 18,500 (21,574) 3,102
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest 29,046     4,335     (14,447) (35,926)
Propane [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues 459,556     451,302     1,344,634 1,346,299
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales 250,389     260,419     766,056 802,852
Midstream Operations [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       22,595       260,631
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales       14,518       229,710
Product and Service, Other [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues 20,069     41,913     60,677 118,691
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales 2,320     19,850     8,789 54,339
Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues 479,625     515,810     1,405,311 1,725,621
Costs and expenses:                
Operating expense 119,991     116,579     351,541 350,757
Depreciation and amortization expense 20,617     25,348     59,214 76,565
General and administrative expense 11,512     11,546     42,028 39,600
Equipment lease expense 8,319     7,133     24,597 20,828
DQC NEVER NEGATIVE Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge (4)     2,738     4,688 10,731
Asset impairment charges               10,005
Loss on asset sales and disposals 1,683     6,270     8,403 46,414
Operating Income (Loss) 64,798     51,409     139,995 83,820
Interest expense (35,395)     (31,739)     (106,740) (97,993)
Other income (expense), net 251     227     356 1,422
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 29,654     19,897     33,611 (12,751)
Income tax expense (benefit) 100     57     254 261
Net earnings (loss) 29,554 52,617 (48,814) 19,840 6,847 (39,699) 33,357 (13,012)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 8,286 $ (17,273) $ (12,587) (6,727) $ (8,671) $ 18,500 (21,574) 3,102
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest 37,840     13,113     11,783 (9,910)
Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Propane [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues 459,556     451,302     1,344,634 1,346,299
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales 250,389     260,419     766,056 802,852
Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Midstream Operations [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       22,595       260,631
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales       14,518       229,710
Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Product and Service, Other [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues 20,069     41,913     60,677 118,691
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales 2,320     19,850     8,789 54,339
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues 479,625           1,405,262  
Costs and expenses:                
Operating expense 124,078     108,291     355,589 323,619
Depreciation and amortization expense 20,506     19,105     58,880 55,973
General and administrative expense 11,511     10,460     42,022 35,048
Equipment lease expense 8,319     7,045     24,597 20,555
DQC NEVER NEGATIVE Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge (4)     2,738     4,688 10,731
Loss on asset sales and disposals 1,683     2,243     5,724 3,706
Operating Income (Loss) 60,823     58,386     139,031 145,104
Interest expense (34,206)     (20,297)     (103,209) (61,903)
Other income (expense), net 278     (133)     393 490
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 26,895     37,956     36,215 83,691
Income tax expense (benefit) (49)     102     105 174
Equity in earnings (loss) of Ferrellgas, L.P. 392     (18,014)     (2,753) (96,529)
Net earnings (loss) 27,336     19,840     33,357 (13,012)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 8,286     (6,727)     (21,574) 3,102
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest 35,622     13,113     11,783 (9,910)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member] | Propane [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues 459,556           1,344,634  
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales 250,389           766,056  
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member] | Product and Service, Other [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues 20,069           60,628  
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales 2,320           8,675  
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Subsidiary Issuer [Member]                
Costs and expenses:                
General and administrative expense 1           6 5
Operating Income (Loss) (1)           (6) (5)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (1)           (6) (5)
Net earnings (loss) (1)           (6) (5)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest (1)           (6) (5)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues             49  
Costs and expenses:                
Operating expense (3)     9,262     36 28,320
Depreciation and amortization expense       6,171       20,377
General and administrative expense       1,086       4,547
Equipment lease expense       88       273
Asset impairment charges               10,005
Loss on asset sales and disposals       4,027     2,679 42,708
Operating Income (Loss) 3     (7,879)     (2,780) (62,246)
Interest expense       (10,104)     (38) (33,028)
Other income (expense), net (27)     360     (37) 932
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (24)     (17,623)     (2,855) (94,342)
Income tax expense (benefit) 149     (45)     149 87
Net earnings (loss) (173)     (17,578)     (3,004) (94,429)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest (173)     (17,578)     (3,004) (94,429)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member] | Product and Service, Other [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues             49  
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales             114  
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Non-Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]                
Costs and expenses:                
Operating expense 968     1,459     3,869 4,474
Depreciation and amortization expense 111     72     334 215
Operating Income (Loss) (1,079)     (1,531)     (4,203) (4,689)
Interest expense (1,189)     (1,338)     (3,493) (3,062)
Other income (expense), net 2,834     2,433     7,953 5,656
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 566     (436)     257 (2,095)
Net earnings (loss) 566     (436)     257 (2,095)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest 566     (436)     257 (2,095)
Eliminations [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member]                
Costs and expenses:                
Operating expense (5,052)     (2,433)     (7,953) (5,656)
Operating Income (Loss) 5,052     2,433     7,953 5,656
Other income (expense), net (2,834)     (2,433)     (7,953) (5,656)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 2,218              
Equity in earnings (loss) of Ferrellgas, L.P. (392)     18,014     2,753 96,529
Net earnings (loss) 1,826     18,014     2,753 96,529
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest $ 1,826     18,014     $ 2,753 96,529
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Product and Service, Other [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       41,913       118,691
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       515,810       1,725,621
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Propane [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       451,302       1,346,299
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales       260,419       802,852
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Midstream Operations [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       22,595       260,631
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales       14,518       229,710
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Product and Service, Other [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       41,913       118,691
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales       19,850       54,339
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       470,913       1,404,689
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member] | Propane [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       451,212       1,345,604
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales       260,317       802,063
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member] | Product and Service, Other [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       19,701       59,085
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales       2,328       7,890
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       44,897       320,932
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member] | Propane [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       90       695
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales       102       789
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member] | Midstream Operations [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       22,595       260,631
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales       14,518       229,710
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member] | Product and Service, Other [Member]                
Revenues:                
Revenues       22,212       59,606
Costs and expenses:                
Cost of sales       $ 17,522       $ 46,449