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Guarantor financial information - Condensed Consolidated Statements of Earnings (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
3 Months Ended 9 Months Ended
Apr. 30, 2018
Apr. 30, 2017
Apr. 30, 2018
Apr. 30, 2017
Revenues:        
Propane and other gas liquids sales $ 451,302 $ 369,437 $ 1,346,299 $ 1,049,211
Midstream operations 22,595 126,676 260,631 331,507
Other 41,913 41,996 118,691 116,183
Total revenues 515,810 538,109 1,725,621 1,496,901
Costs and expenses:        
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 260,419 197,487 802,852 551,728
Cost of sales - midstream operations 14,518 118,767 229,710 300,433
Cost of product sold - other 19,850 20,810 54,339 53,213
Operating expense 116,579 104,773 350,757 322,935
Depreciation and amortization expense 25,348 25,737 76,565 77,546
General and administrative expense 11,678 9,978 39,733 36,526
Equipment lease expense 7,133 7,270 20,828 22,035
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 2,738 4,697 10,731 11,396
Asset Impairment Charges 0 0 10,005 0
Loss on asset sales and disposals 6,270 2,393 46,414 8,861
Operating income (loss) 51,277 46,197 83,687 112,228
Interest expense (40,375) (39,860) (123,855) (112,107)
Other income (expense), net 227 162 1,422 1,433
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 11,129 6,499 (38,746) 1,554
Income tax expense (benefit) 67 (192) 282 (194)
Net earnings (loss) 11,062 6,691 (39,028) 1,748
Other comprehensive income (loss) (6,727) (8,429) 3,102 16,723
Comprehensive income (loss) 4,335 (1,738) (35,926) 18,471
Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member]        
Revenues:        
Propane and other gas liquids sales 451,302 369,437 1,346,299 1,049,211
Midstream operations 22,595 126,676 260,631 331,507
Other 41,913 41,996 118,691 116,183
Total revenues 515,810 538,109 1,725,621 1,496,901
Costs and expenses:        
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 260,419 197,487 802,852 551,728
Cost of sales - midstream operations 14,518 118,767 229,710 300,433
Cost of product sold - other 19,850 20,810 54,339 53,213
Operating expense 116,579 104,773 350,757 322,935
Depreciation and amortization expense 25,348 25,737 76,565 77,546
General and administrative expense 11,546 9,869 39,600 36,416
Equipment lease expense 7,133 7,270 20,828 22,035
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 2,738 4,697 10,731 11,396
Asset Impairment Charges 0 0 10,005 0
Loss on asset sales and disposals 6,270 2,393 46,414 8,861
Operating income (loss) 51,409 46,306 83,820 112,338
Interest expense (31,739) (31,270) (97,993) (95,416)
Other income (expense), net 227 162 1,422 1,433
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 19,897 15,198 (12,751) 18,355
Income tax expense (benefit) 57 (197) 261 (200)
Equity in earnings of subsidiary 0 0 0 0
Net earnings (loss) 19,840 15,395 (13,012) 18,555
Other comprehensive income (loss) (6,727) (8,429) 3,102 16,723
Comprehensive income (loss) 13,113 6,966 (9,910) 35,278
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. (Parent and Co-Issuer) [Member]        
Revenues:        
Propane and other gas liquids sales 451,212 369,437 1,345,604 1,049,211
Midstream operations 0 0 0 0
Other 19,701 17,850 59,085 56,785
Total revenues 470,913 387,287 1,404,689 1,105,996
Costs and expenses:        
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 260,317 197,487 802,063 551,728
Cost of sales - midstream operations 0 0 0 0
Cost of product sold - other 2,328 1,992 7,890 6,993
Operating expense 108,291 96,264 323,619 297,905
Depreciation and amortization expense 19,105 18,261 55,973 54,552
General and administrative expense 10,460 8,930 35,048 32,886
Equipment lease expense 7,045 7,108 20,555 21,585
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 2,738 4,697 10,731 11,396
Asset Impairment Charges     0  
Loss on asset sales and disposals 2,243 2,146 3,706 3,666
Operating income (loss) 58,386 50,402 145,104 125,285
Interest expense (20,297) (19,452) (61,903) (60,893)
Other income (expense), net (133) (157) 490 100
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 37,956 30,793 83,691 64,492
Income tax expense (benefit) 102 97 174 171
Equity in earnings of subsidiary (18,014) (15,301) (96,529) (45,766)
Net earnings (loss) 19,840 15,395 (13,012) 18,555
Other comprehensive income (loss) (6,727) (8,429) 3,102 16,723
Comprehensive income (loss) 13,113 6,966 (9,910) 35,278
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]        
Revenues:        
Propane and other gas liquids sales 90 0 695 0
Midstream operations 22,595 126,676 260,631 331,507
Other 22,212 24,146 59,606 59,398
Total revenues 44,897 150,822 320,932 390,905
Costs and expenses:        
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 102 0 789 0
Cost of sales - midstream operations 14,518 118,767 229,710 300,433
Cost of product sold - other 17,522 18,818 46,449 46,220
Operating expense 9,262 8,594 28,320 28,482
Depreciation and amortization expense 6,171 7,418 20,377 22,817
General and administrative expense 1,086 939 4,547 3,525
Equipment lease expense 88 162 273 450
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 0 0 0 0
Asset Impairment Charges     10,005  
Loss on asset sales and disposals 4,027 247 42,708 5,195
Operating income (loss) (7,879) (4,123) (62,246) (16,217)
Interest expense (10,104) (11,019) (33,028) (32,694)
Other income (expense), net 360 319 932 1,333
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (17,623) (14,823) (94,342) (47,578)
Income tax expense (benefit) (45) (294) 87 (371)
Equity in earnings of subsidiary 0 0 0 0
Net earnings (loss) (17,578) (14,529) (94,429) (47,207)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 0 0 0 0
Comprehensive income (loss) (17,578) (14,529) (94,429) (47,207)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Non-Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]        
Revenues:        
Propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0 0 0
Midstream operations 0 0 0 0
Other 0 0 0 0
Total revenues 0 0 0 0
Costs and expenses:        
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0 0 0
Cost of sales - midstream operations 0 0 0 0
Cost of product sold - other 0 0 0 0
Operating expense 1,459 1,315 4,474 (251)
Depreciation and amortization expense 72 58 215 177
General and administrative expense 0 0 0 0
Equipment lease expense 0 0 0 0
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 0 0 0 0
Asset Impairment Charges     0  
Loss on asset sales and disposals 0 0 0 0
Operating income (loss) (1,531) (1,373) (4,689) 74
Interest expense (1,338) (799) (3,062) (1,826)
Other income (expense), net 2,433 1,400 5,656 3,198
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (436) (772) (2,095) 1,446
Income tax expense (benefit) 0 0 0 0
Equity in earnings of subsidiary 0 0 0 0
Net earnings (loss) (436) (772) (2,095) 1,446
Other comprehensive income (loss) 0 0 0 0
Comprehensive income (loss) (436) (772) (2,095) 1,446
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas Finance Corp. (Co-Issuer) [Member]        
Revenues:        
Propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0 0 0
Midstream operations 0 0 0 0
Other 0 0 0 0
Total revenues 0 0 0 0
Costs and expenses:        
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0 0 0
Cost of sales - midstream operations 0 0 0 0
Cost of product sold - other 0 0 0 0
Operating expense 0 0 0 0
Depreciation and amortization expense 0 0 0 0
General and administrative expense 0 0 5 5
Equipment lease expense 0 0 0 0
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 0 0 0 0
Asset Impairment Charges     0  
Loss on asset sales and disposals 0 0 0 0
Operating income (loss) 0 0 (5) (5)
Interest expense 0 0 0 0
Other income (expense), net 0 0 0 0
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 0 0 (5) (5)
Income tax expense (benefit) 0 0 0 0
Equity in earnings of subsidiary 0 0 0 0
Net earnings (loss) 0 0 (5) (5)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 0 0 0 0
Comprehensive income (loss) 0 0 (5) (5)
Eliminations [Member]        
Revenues:        
Propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0 0 0
Midstream operations 0 0 0 0
Other 0 0 0 0
Total revenues 0 0 0 0
Costs and expenses:        
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0 0 0
Cost of sales - midstream operations 0 0 0 0
Cost of product sold - other 0 0 0 0
Operating expense (2,433) (1,400) (5,656) (3,201)
Depreciation and amortization expense 0 0 0 0
General and administrative expense 0 0 0 0
Equipment lease expense 0 0 0 0
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 0 0 0 0
Asset Impairment Charges     0  
Loss on asset sales and disposals 0 0 0 0
Operating income (loss) 2,433 1,400 5,656 3,201
Interest expense 0 0 0 (3)
Other income (expense), net (2,433) (1,400) (5,656) (3,198)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 0 0 0 0
Income tax expense (benefit) 0 0 0 0
Equity in earnings of subsidiary 18,014 15,301 96,529 45,766
Net earnings (loss) 18,014 15,301 96,529 45,766
Other comprehensive income (loss) 0 0 0 0
Comprehensive income (loss) $ 18,014 $ 15,301 $ 96,529 $ 45,766