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Guarantor financial information - Condensed Consolidated Statements of Earnings (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
3 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2017
Oct. 31, 2016
Revenues:    
Propane and other gas liquids sales $ 302,758 $ 242,399
Midstream operations 120,760 108,044
Other 31,137 29,099
Total revenues 454,655 379,542
Costs and expenses:    
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 179,515 119,212
Cost of sales - midstream operations 108,125 94,642
Cost of product sold - other 13,702 11,746
Operating expense 110,462 105,086
Depreciation and amortization expense 25,732 26,202
General and administrative expense 13,164 14,269
Equipment lease expense 6,741 7,349
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 3,962 3,754
Loss on disposal of assets 895 6,423
Operating income (loss) (7,643) (9,141)
Interest expense (40,807) (35,428)
Other income (expense), net 511 508
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (47,939) (44,061)
Income tax expense 377 (590)
Net earnings (loss) (48,316) (43,471)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 18,500 9,376
Comprehensive income (29,816) (34,095)
Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member]    
Revenues:    
Propane and other gas liquids sales 302,758 242,399
Midstream operations 120,760 108,044
Other 31,137 29,099
Total revenues 454,655 379,542
Costs and expenses:    
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 179,515 119,212
Cost of sales - midstream operations 108,125 94,642
Cost of product sold - other 13,702 11,746
Operating expense 110,462 105,086
Depreciation and amortization expense 25,732 26,202
General and administrative expense 13,164 14,269
Equipment lease expense 6,741 7,349
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 3,962 3,754
Loss on disposal of assets 895 6,423
Operating income (loss) (7,643) (9,141)
Interest expense (32,196) (31,398)
Other income (expense), net 511 508
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (39,328) (40,031)
Income tax expense 371 (591)
Equity in earnings of subsidiary 0 0
Net earnings (loss) (39,699) (39,440)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 18,500 9,376
Comprehensive income (21,199) (30,064)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. (Parent and Co-Issuer) [Member]    
Revenues:    
Propane and other gas liquids sales 302,117 242,399
Midstream operations 0 0
Other 16,677 17,326
Total revenues 318,794 259,725
Costs and expenses:    
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 178,819 119,212
Cost of sales - midstream operations 0 0
Cost of product sold - other 2,709 2,430
Operating expense 101,232 97,655
Depreciation and amortization expense 18,347 18,277
General and administrative expense 10,755 12,863
Equipment lease expense 6,648 7,210
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 3,962 3,754
Loss on disposal of assets 908 1,447
Operating income (loss) (4,586) (3,123)
Interest expense (20,394) (20,352)
Other income (expense), net 215 (47)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (24,765) (23,522)
Income tax expense (10) (29)
Equity in earnings of subsidiary (14,944) (15,947)
Net earnings (loss) (39,699) (39,440)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 18,500 9,376
Comprehensive income (21,199) (30,064)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]    
Revenues:    
Propane and other gas liquids sales 641 0
Midstream operations 120,760 108,044
Other 14,460 11,773
Total revenues 135,861 119,817
Costs and expenses:    
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 696 0
Cost of sales - midstream operations 108,125 94,642
Cost of product sold - other 10,993 9,316
Operating expense 9,263 10,246
Depreciation and amortization expense 7,313 7,872
General and administrative expense 2,407 1,404
Equipment lease expense 93 139
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 0 0
Loss on disposal of assets (13) 4,976
Operating income (loss) (3,016) (8,778)
Interest expense (11,185) (10,673)
Other income (expense), net 296 555
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (13,905) (18,896)
Income tax expense 381 (562)
Equity in earnings of subsidiary 0 0
Net earnings (loss) (14,286) (18,334)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 0 0
Comprehensive income (14,286) (18,334)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Non-Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]    
Revenues:    
Propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0
Midstream operations 0 0
Other 0 0
Total revenues 0 0
Costs and expenses:    
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0
Cost of sales - midstream operations 0 0
Cost of product sold - other 0 0
Operating expense 1,182 (2,105)
Depreciation and amortization expense 72 53
General and administrative expense 0 0
Equipment lease expense 0 0
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 0 0
Loss on disposal of assets 0 0
Operating income (loss) (1,254) 2,052
Interest expense (617) (370)
Other income (expense), net 1,215 707
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (656) 2,389
Income tax expense 0 0
Equity in earnings of subsidiary 0 0
Net earnings (loss) (656) 2,389
Other comprehensive income (loss) 0 0
Comprehensive income (656) 2,389
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas Finance Corp. (Co-Issuer) [Member]    
Revenues:    
Propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0
Midstream operations 0 0
Other 0 0
Total revenues 0 0
Costs and expenses:    
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0
Cost of sales - midstream operations 0 0
Cost of product sold - other 0 0
Operating expense 0 0
Depreciation and amortization expense 0 0
General and administrative expense 2 2
Equipment lease expense 0 0
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 0 0
Loss on disposal of assets 0 0
Operating income (loss) (2) (2)
Interest expense 0 0
Other income (expense), net 0 0
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (2) (2)
Income tax expense 0 0
Equity in earnings of subsidiary 0 0
Net earnings (loss) (2) (2)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 0 0
Comprehensive income (2) (2)
Eliminations [Member]    
Revenues:    
Propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0
Midstream operations 0 0
Other 0 0
Total revenues 0 0
Costs and expenses:    
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0
Cost of sales - midstream operations 0 0
Cost of product sold - other 0 0
Operating expense (1,215) (710)
Depreciation and amortization expense 0 0
General and administrative expense 0 0
Equipment lease expense 0 0
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 0 0
Loss on disposal of assets 0 0
Operating income (loss) 1,215 710
Interest expense 0 (3)
Other income (expense), net (1,215) (707)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 0 0
Income tax expense 0 0
Equity in earnings of subsidiary 14,944 15,947
Net earnings (loss) 14,944 15,947
Other comprehensive income (loss) 0 0
Comprehensive income $ 14,944 $ 15,947