Fair Value (Details - Change in fair value option table) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified	12 Months Ended
	Dec. 31, 2013	Dec. 31, 2012	Dec. 31, 2011
Fair Value, Option, Quantitative Disclosures [Line Items]
Change in unrealized gain/loss	$ (442,597)	$ 279,017	$ 7,378
Fixed maturities and short term investments [Member]
Fair Value, Option, Quantitative Disclosures [Line Items]
Change in unrealized gain/loss	(525,787)	186,063	128,224
Equity securities [Member]
Fair Value, Option, Quantitative Disclosures [Line Items]
Change in unrealized gain/loss	118,010	66,253	(101,860)
Other invested assets [Member]
Fair Value, Option, Quantitative Disclosures [Line Items]
Change in unrealized gain/loss	(6,970)	18,732	(24,839)
Funds Held - Directly Managed investment [Member]
Fair Value, Option, Quantitative Disclosures [Line Items]
Change in unrealized gain/loss	$ (27,850)	$ 7,969	$ 5,853