Fair Value (Details - Change in fair value option table) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified	3 Months Ended		9 Months Ended
	Sep. 30, 2014	Sep. 30, 2013	Sep. 30, 2014	Sep. 30, 2013
Fair Value, Option, Quantitative Disclosures [Line Items]
Change in unrealized gain/loss	$ (110,667)	$ 11,482	$ 154,246	$ (492,077)
Fixed maturities and short term investments [Member]
Fair Value, Option, Quantitative Disclosures [Line Items]
Change in unrealized gain/loss	(75,537)	10,259	167,696	(457,168)
Equities [Member]
Fair Value, Option, Quantitative Disclosures [Line Items]
Change in unrealized gain/loss	(31,093)	(891)	(14,447)	(8,540)
Other invested assets [Member]
Fair Value, Option, Quantitative Disclosures [Line Items]
Change in unrealized gain/loss	(3,497)	3,021	60	(4,047)
Funds Held - Directly Managed investment [Member]
Fair Value, Option, Quantitative Disclosures [Line Items]
Change in unrealized gain/loss	$ (540)	$ (907)	$ 937	$ (22,322)