Pension and Other Post-Retirement Benefit Matters Pension cash flows (Details) - USD ($) $ in Thousands	12 Months Ended
	Oct. 31, 2017	Oct. 31, 2016
Pension Plan [Member]
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Employer contributions	$ 0
Domestic Plan [Member] | Pension Plan [Member]
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Employer contributions	0	$ 950
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payment, Next Twelve Months	4,620
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payment, Year Two	4,380
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payment, Year Three	4,320
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payment, Year Four	4,310
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payment, Year Five	4,850
Defined Benefit Plans, Expected Future Benefit Payments, Thereafter	25,080
Domestic Plan [Member] | Other Postretirement Benefits Plan [Member]
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Employer contributions	44	$ 47
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payment, Next Twelve Months	38
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payment, Year Two	37
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payment, Year Three	37
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payment, Year Four	26
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payment, Year Five	24
Defined Benefit Plans, Expected Future Benefit Payments, Thereafter	$ 101