Pension and Other Post-Retirement Benefit Matters Components of Net Benefit Costs (Details) - USD ($) $ in Thousands	12 Months Ended
	Oct. 31, 2016	Oct. 31, 2015	Oct. 31, 2014
United States Pension Plan of US Entity [Member]
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Interest Cost	$ 3,566	$ 3,466	$ 3,749
Expected return on plan assets	(4,568)	(4,698)	(4,281)
Amortization of net actuarial loss	1,239	1,186	1,074
Net periodic benefit cost	237	(46)	542
United States Postretirement Benefit Plan of US Entity [Member]
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Interest Cost	16	24	38
Expected return on plan assets	0	0	0
Amortization of net actuarial loss	12	28	41
Net periodic benefit cost	$ 28	$ 52	$ 79