Condensed Consolidated Statement of Comprehensive Income - USD ($) $ in Thousands	3 Months Ended
	Jan. 31, 2016	Jan. 31, 2015
Statement of Comprehensive Income [Abstract]
Net income (loss)	$ (5,059)	$ 2,443
Recognized loss	310	296
Actuarial net loss	0	(6,156)
Asset net loss	0	(846)
Income tax benefit	(112)	2,537
Total defined benefit pension plans & other post retirement benefits, net of tax	198	(4,169)
Unrealized loss on marketable securities	(205)	(251)
Income tax benefit	65	88
Total marketable securities, net of tax	(140)	(163)
Unrealized loss on interest rate swap agreements	(1,105)	(2,420)
Income tax benefit	291	916
Other Comprehensive Income (Loss), Reclassification Adjustment from AOCI on Derivatives, Net of Tax	334	0
Change in fair value of derivative instruments, net of tax	(480)	(1,504)
Unrealized loss on foreign currency translation	(1,292)	(7,428)
Comprehensive loss, net	$ (6,773)	$ (10,821)