Pension and Other Post-Retirement Benefit Matters Accumulated Other Comprehensive Income (Details) - USD ($) $ in Thousands	12 Months Ended
	Oct. 31, 2015	Oct. 31, 2014	Oct. 31, 2013
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Attributable to Parent	$ (4,904)	$ 11,645	$ 26,799
Pension Plans, Defined Benefit [Member]
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Amortization of net acutarial loss	1,239
Pension and Other Postretirement Benefit Plans, Accumulated Other Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net Gains (Losses), before Tax	44,928	43,669
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Attributable to Parent	(1,259)	(2,390)
Other Postretirement Benefit Plans, Defined Benefit [Member]
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Amortization of net acutarial loss	12
Pension and Other Postretirement Benefit Plans, Accumulated Other Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net Gains (Losses), before Tax	153	361
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Attributable to Parent	$ 208	$ 318