Accumulated Other Comprehensive Loss Amounts Reclassified From Accumulated Other Comprehensive Loss (Details) - USD ($) $ in Thousands	3 Months Ended		9 Months Ended
	Jul. 31, 2015	Jul. 31, 2014	Jul. 31, 2015	Jul. 31, 2014
Accumulated Other Comprehensive Income (Loss) [Line Items]
Income Tax Benefit	$ (2,480)	$ (335)	$ (5,772)	$ (6,136)
Reclassification out of Accumulated Other Comprehensive Income [Member] | Accumulated Defined Benefit Plans Adjustment [Member]
Accumulated Other Comprehensive Income (Loss) [Line Items]
Interest costs			2,617	2,839
Return on plan assets			(3,523)	(3,211)
Return on plan assets			911	837
Income (Loss) from Continuing Operations Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest			5	465
Income Tax Benefit			(2)	(154)
Total reclassifications			7	619
Reclassification out of Accumulated Other Comprehensive Income [Member] | Accumulated Net Investment Gain (Loss) Attributable to Parent [Member]
Accumulated Other Comprehensive Income (Loss) [Line Items]
Income Tax Benefit			0	138
Total reclassifications			0	227
Reclassification from Accumulated Other Comprehensive Income, Current Period, before Tax			$ 0	$ 365