Condensed Consolidated Statement of Comprehensive Income (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified	3 Months Ended
	Jan. 31, 2015	Jan. 31, 2014
Statement of Comprehensive Income [Abstract]
Net income	$ 3,673	$ 4,939
Recognized gain	296	269
Actuarial net loss	(6,156)	(540)
Asset net loss	(846)	(386)
Income tax benefit on pension plans & other postretirement benefits	2,537	249
Total defined benefit pension plans & other post retirement benefits	(4,169)	(408)
Unrealized loss on marketable securities	(251)	0
Income tax benefit on marketable securities	88	0
Total marketable securities, net of tax	(163)	0
Unrealized loss on interest rate swap agreements	(2,420)	0
Income tax benefit on interest rate swap agreements	916	0
Change in fair value of derivative instruments, net of tax	(1,504)	0
Unrealized loss on foreign currency translation	(7,428)	0
Comprehensive income (loss), net	$ (9,591)	$ 4,531