Pension and Other Post-Retirement Benefit Matters Pension cash flows (Details) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified	12 Months Ended
	Oct. 31, 2014	Oct. 31, 2013
Compensation and Retirement Disclosure [Abstract]
Defined Contribution Plan, Cost Recognized	$ 3,230	$ 2,195
Pension Plans, Defined Benefit [Member]
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Defined Benefit Plans, Estimated Future Employer Contributions in Next Fiscal Year	4,470
Employer contributions	4,374	5,146
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payments, Next Twelve Months	3,910
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payments, Year Two	3,750
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payments, Year Three	4,120
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payments, Year Four	3,920
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payments, Year Five	4,500
Defined Benefit Plans, Expected Future Benefit Payments, Thereafter	24,440
Other Postretirement Benefit Plans, Defined Benefit [Member]
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Employer contributions	16	35
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payments, Next Twelve Months	62
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payments, Year Two	66
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payments, Year Three	52
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payments, Year Four	45
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Future Benefit Payments, Year Five	46
Defined Benefit Plans, Expected Future Benefit Payments, Thereafter	$ 193