Pension and Other Post-Retirement Benefit Matters Fair Value (Details) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified	Oct. 31, 2013	Oct. 31, 2012
Compensation and Retirement Disclosure [Abstract]
Financial Instruments, Owned, at Fair Value	$ 60,956	$ 53,230

The aggregate fair value as of the balance sheet date of financial instruments and other positions owned by the entity including: (1) mortgages, mortgage-backed and asset backed securities; (2) US government and agency obligations; (3) state and municipal government obligations; (4) other sovereign government debt; (5) corporate obligations; (6) corporate equities; (7) principal investments; (8) derivative contracts; and (9) physical commodities. Includes both pledged and unpledged holdings.

Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef

-Publisher FASB

-Name Accounting Standards Codification

-Topic 940

-SubTopic 320

-Section 45

-Paragraph 2

-URI http://asc.fasb.org/extlink&oid=29643736&loc=d3e42546-110969

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