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Pension and Other Post-Retirement Benefit Matters Assumptions (Details) (USD $)
In Thousands, unless otherwise specified
12 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2013
Oct. 31, 2012
Oct. 31, 2011
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]      
Defined Benefit Plan, Assumptions Used Calculating Benefit Obligation, Discount Rate 4.50%    
Defined Benefit Plan, Benefit Obligation $ 4,470    
Defined Benefit Plan, Health Care Cost Trend Rate Assumed for Next Fiscal Year 7.00% 8.00%  
Defined Benefit Plan, Ultimate Health Care Cost Trend Rate 6.50% 7.50%  
Defined Benefit Plan, Year that Rate Reaches Ultimate Trend Rate 2015 2014  
Defined Benefit Plan, Effect of One Percentage Point Increase on Service and Interest Cost Components 5    
Defined Benefit Plan, Effect of One Percentage Point Decrease on Service and Interest Cost Components (4)    
Defined Benefit Plan, Effect of One Percentage Point Increase on Accumulated Postretirement Benefit Obligation 45    
Defined Benefit Plan, Effect of One Percentage Point Decrease on Accumulated Postretirement Benefit Obligation (40)    
Pension Plans, Defined Benefit [Member]
     
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]      
Defined Benefit Plan, Assumptions Used Calculating Benefit Obligation, Discount Rate 4.50% 3.75%  
Defined Benefit Plan, Assumptions Used Calculating Net Periodic Benefit Cost, Discount Rate 3.75% 5.00%  
Defined Benefit Plan, Assumptions Used Calculating Net Periodic Benefit Cost, Expected Long-term Return on Assets 7.50% 7.50%  
Defined Benefit Plan, Benefit Obligation 85,128 88,665 75,292
Other Postretirement Benefit Plans, Defined Benefit [Member]
     
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]      
Defined Benefit Plan, Assumptions Used Calculating Benefit Obligation, Discount Rate 4.50% 3.75%  
Defined Benefit Plan, Assumptions Used Calculating Net Periodic Benefit Cost, Discount Rate 3.75% 5.00%  
Defined Benefit Plan, Assumptions Used Calculating Net Periodic Benefit Cost, Expected Long-term Return on Assets 0.00% 0.00%  
Defined Benefit Plan, Benefit Obligation $ 894 $ 940 $ 935
Change in Assumptions for Pension Plans [Member]
     
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]      
Defined Benefit Plan, Assumptions Used Calculating Benefit Obligation, Increase (Decrease) to Discount Rate 0.75%