Pension and Other Post-Retirement Benefit Matters (Details) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified	3 Months Ended
	Jan. 31, 2013	Jan. 31, 2012
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Pension Contributions	$ 1,087
Estimated Future Employer Contributions in Next Fiscal Year	4,063
United States Pension Plans of US Entity, Defined Benefit [Member]
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Defined Benefit Plan, Service Cost	0	0
Defined Benefit Plan, Interest Cost	815	921
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Return on Plan Assets	934	813
Defined Benefit Plan, Actuarial Net Losses	348	260
Defined Benefit Plan, Net Periodic Benefit Cost	229	368
United States Postretirement Benefit Plans of US Entity, Defined Benefit [Member]
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Defined Benefit Plan, Service Cost	0	0
Defined Benefit Plan, Interest Cost	8	11
Defined Benefit Plan, Expected Return on Plan Assets	0	0
Defined Benefit Plan, Actuarial Net Losses	12	14
Defined Benefit Plan, Net Periodic Benefit Cost	$ 20	$ 25