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Pension and Other Post-Retirement Benefit Matters Plan Assets (Details)
12 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2012
Oct. 31, 2011
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]    
Defined Benefit Plan, Actual Plan Asset Allocations 100.00% 100.00%
Equity Securities [Member]
   
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]    
Defined Benefit Plan, Target Allocation Percentage 0-70%  
Defined Benefit Plan, Actual Plan Asset Allocations 56.00% 68.00%
Debt Securities [Member]
   
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]    
Defined Benefit Plan, Target Allocation Percentage 0-70%  
Defined Benefit Plan, Actual Plan Asset Allocations 38.00% 27.00%
Real Estate [Member]
   
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]    
Defined Benefit Plan, Target Allocation Percentage 0-10%  
Defined Benefit Plan, Actual Plan Asset Allocations 6.00% 5.00%