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Future policy benefits (Weighted average interest rates) (Details) - Segment Life [Member]
Sep. 30, 2023
Sep. 30, 2022
Term Life Insurance    
Liability for Future Policy Benefit, Activity [Line Items]    
Interest Accretion Rate 2.90% 2.60%
Current Discount Rate 6.00% 6.10%
Whole Life Insurance    
Liability for Future Policy Benefit, Activity [Line Items]    
Interest Accretion Rate 3.20% 3.90%
Current Discount Rate 4.70% 5.50%
Accident and Health Insurance Product Line [Member]    
Liability for Future Policy Benefit, Activity [Line Items]    
Interest Accretion Rate 3.70% 3.60%
Current Discount Rate 6.70% 6.10%
Insurance, Other    
Liability for Future Policy Benefit, Activity [Line Items]    
Interest Accretion Rate 2.60% 3.70%
Current Discount Rate 4.30% 6.20%