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ACCESSION NUMBER:		0001296720-04-000001
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	3
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20040728
FILED AS OF DATE:		20040729

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			Wolfe Daniel B
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001296720

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		3
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	814-00176
		FILM NUMBER:		04938605

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		BUSINESS PHONE:		212-582-0900

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		HARRIS & HARRIS GROUP
		STREET 2:		111 WEST 57TH STREET, SUITE 1100
		CITY:			NEW YORK
		STATE:			NY
		ZIP:			10019

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			HARRIS & HARRIS GROUP INC /NY/
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000893739
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	INVESTORS, NEC [6799]
		IRS NUMBER:				133119827
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			NY
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		111 WEST 57TH STREET
		STREET 2:		SUITE 1100
		CITY:			NEW YORK
		STATE:			NY
		ZIP:			10019
		BUSINESS PHONE:		212-582-0900

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		111 WEST 57TH STREET
		STREET 2:		SUITE 1100
		CITY:			NEW YORK
		STATE:			NY
		ZIP:			10019
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    <periodOfReport>2004-07-28</periodOfReport>

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        <issuerName>HARRIS &amp; HARRIS GROUP INC /NY/</issuerName>
        <issuerTradingSymbol>TINY</issuerTradingSymbol>
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        <reportingOwnerId>
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            <rptOwnerName>Wolfe Daniel B</rptOwnerName>
        </reportingOwnerId>
        <reportingOwnerAddress>
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            <rptOwnerStreet2>111 WEST 57TH STREET, SUITE 1100</rptOwnerStreet2>
            <rptOwnerCity>NEW YORK</rptOwnerCity>
            <rptOwnerState>NY</rptOwnerState>
            <rptOwnerZipCode>10019</rptOwnerZipCode>
            <rptOwnerStateDescription></rptOwnerStateDescription>
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            <isDirector>0</isDirector>
            <isOfficer>1</isOfficer>
            <isTenPercentOwner>0</isTenPercentOwner>
            <isOther>0</isOther>
            <officerTitle>Vice President</officerTitle>
        </reportingOwnerRelationship>
    </reportingOwner>

    <ownerSignature>
        <signatureName>Daniel B. Wolfe</signatureName>
        <signatureDate>2004-07-29</signatureDate>
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