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Employee Retirement Plans - Net periodic pension (income) cost (Details) - Pension Benefits - USD ($)
$ in Millions
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2023
Sep. 30, 2022
Sep. 30, 2021
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]      
Service cost $ 9 $ 16 $ 12
Interest cost 35 26 22
Expected return on assets (45) (50) (40)
Amortization of:      
Actuarial (gain) loss (3) 7 14
Net benefit (income) cost (4) (1) $ 8
Contribution made to Pension Plan $ 19 $ 15