Condensed Consolidating Guarantor and Non-Guarantor - Guarantor and Non-Guarantor Parenthetical (Details) (USD $)	3 Months Ended
Jan. 31, 2014	Jan. 31, 2013
Defined benefit plan, tax	$ 0	$ 0
Parent Company [Domain]
Defined benefit plan, tax	0	0
Guarantor Subsidiaries [Domain]
Defined benefit plan, tax	0	0
Non-Guarantor Subsidiaries [Domain]
Defined benefit plan, tax	0	0
Consolidation, Eliminations [Domain]
Defined benefit plan, tax	$ 0	$ 0

Amount of tax (expense) benefit, after reclassification adjustments, of (increase) decrease in accumulated other comprehensive (income) loss related to pension and other postretirement defined benefit plans, attributable to parent entity.

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-Publisher FASB

-Name Accounting Standards Codification

-Topic 810

-SubTopic 10

-Section 45

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-Name Accounting Standards Codification

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Reference 3: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef

-Publisher FASB

-Name Accounting Standards Codification

-Topic 810

-SubTopic 10

-Section 50

-Paragraph 1A

-Subparagraph (c)(3)

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