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Segment reporting (Major Customer) (Details)
9 Months Ended 3 Months Ended
Jul. 31, 2012
Customer Concentration Risk [Member]
Jul. 31, 2011
Truck And Parts [Member]
U.S. Government [Member]
Revenue, Major Customer [Line Items]    
Major customer revenue, percentage   11.00%
Concentration Risk, Percentage 10.00%