Retiree Benefits (Details) - USD ($) $ in Thousands	3 Months Ended
	Jan. 29, 2016	Jan. 30, 2015
Pension Plans, Defined Benefit
Components of net periodic benefit cost
Service cost	$ 1,226	$ 977
Interest cost	18,736	19,657
Expected return on assets	(23,844)	(27,264)
Amortization of prior service cost	17	17
Curtailment charge	0	0
Special termination benefits	9,600	0
Net periodic benefit cost/(income)	5,735	(6,613)
Postretirement Benefits
Components of net periodic benefit cost
Service cost	191	253
Interest cost	305	300
Expected return on assets	(147)	(160)
Amortization of prior service cost	33	33
Curtailment charge	100	0
Special termination benefits	0	0
Net periodic benefit cost/(income)	$ 482	$ 426