Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 debt fv) (Details 2) - USD ($) $ in Thousands	Oct. 31, 2024	Oct. 31, 2023
Book value [Member]
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure	$ 2,837,969	$ 2,867,436
Estimate fair value [Member]
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure	2,792,157	2,731,982
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 [Member] | Book value [Member] | Senior Notes [Member]
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure	1,600,000	1,600,000
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 [Member] | Estimate fair value [Member] | Senior Notes [Member]
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure	1,572,580	1,481,220
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Book value [Member] | Loans Payable [Member]
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure	1,087,969	1,167,378
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Book value [Member] | Warehouse Agreement Borrowings [Member]
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure	150,000	100,058
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Estimate fair value [Member] | Loans Payable [Member]
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure	1,069,577	1,150,704
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Estimate fair value [Member] | Warehouse Agreement Borrowings [Member]
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]
Debt instrument, fair value disclosure	$ 150,000	$ 100,058