Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 inventory fv) (Details 2) $ in Thousands	12 Months Ended
	Oct. 31, 2022 USD ($) numberOfCommunities	Oct. 31, 2021 USD ($) numberOfCommunities	Oct. 31, 2020 USD ($) numberOfCommunities
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]
Inventory Write-down	$ 32,741	$ 26,535	$ 55,883
Land Owned for Future Communities [Member]
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]
Inventory Write-down	19,690	19,805	31,669
Minimum [Member] | Land Owned for Future Communities [Member]
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]
Sales price per lot	$ 25	$ 25	$ 25
Fair Value, Nonrecurring [Member] | Land Owned for Future Communities [Member]
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]
Number of communities impaired | numberOfCommunities	4	6	9
Fair Value Of Communities Net Of Impairment Charges	$ 49,500	$ 23,900	$ 21,800
Inventory Write-down	$ 19,700	$ 19,800	$ 31,700