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Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 inventory fv) (Details 3)
$ in Thousands
3 Months Ended 12 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2020
USD ($)
numberOfCommunities
Jul. 31, 2020
USD ($)
numberOfCommunities
Apr. 30, 2020
USD ($)
numberOfCommunities
Jan. 31, 2020
USD ($)
numberOfCommunities
Oct. 31, 2019
USD ($)
numberOfCommunities
Jul. 31, 2019
USD ($)
numberOfCommunities
Apr. 30, 2019
USD ($)
numberOfCommunities
Jan. 31, 2019
USD ($)
numberOfCommunities
Oct. 31, 2018
USD ($)
numberOfCommunities
Jul. 31, 2018
USD ($)
numberOfCommunities
Apr. 30, 2018
USD ($)
numberOfCommunities
Jan. 31, 2018
USD ($)
numberOfCommunities
Oct. 31, 2020
USD ($)
Oct. 31, 2019
USD ($)
Oct. 31, 2018
USD ($)
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]                              
Inventory impairments and write-offs                         $ 55,883 $ 42,360 $ 35,156
Fair Value, Nonrecurring [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 [Member] | Operating communities [Member]                              
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]                              
Number of Operating Communities Tested | numberOfCommunities 53 66 80 65 71 69 64 49 43 55 65 64      
Number of Communities impaired | numberOfCommunities 1 0 1 0 7 3 6 5 6 5 4 5      
Fair Value Of Communities Net Of Impairment Charges $ 1,113 $ 0 $ 2,754 $ 0 $ 18,910 $ 5,436 $ 36,159 $ 37,282 $ 24,692 $ 43,063 $ 21,811 $ 13,318 1,113 18,910 24,692
Inventory impairments and write-offs $ 375 $ 0 $ 300 $ 0 $ 6,695 $ 1,100 $ 17,495 $ 5,785 $ 4,025 $ 9,065 $ 13,325 $ 3,736 $ 675 $ 31,075 $ 30,151