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Supplemental Guarantor Information (Level 4 CF) (Details 3) - USD ($) $ in Thousands	3 Months Ended
	Jan. 31, 2019	Jan. 31, 2018	Oct. 31, 2018	Oct. 31, 2017
Cash flow (used in) provided by operating activities:
Net Cash (Used in) Provided by Operating Activities, Continuing Operations	$ (185,225)	$ (329,824)
Cash flow (used in) provided by investing activities:
Purchase of property and equipment - net	(19,576)	(1,694)
Investments in and advances to unconsolidated entities	(17,205)	(4,422)
Return of investments in unconsolidated entities	42,677	36,253
Investment in distressed loans and foreclosed real estate	(130)	(92)
Return of investments in distressed loans and foreclosed real estate	482	1,505
Proceeds from sale of golf club property	18,220	0
Investments paid intercompany	0
Intercompany investing advances (to) from consolidated entities	0	0
Net cash provided by (used in) investing activities	24,468	31,550
Cash flow provided by (used in) financing activities:
Proceeds from issuance of senior notes	0	400,000
Payments of Debt Issuance Costs Senior Long Term Debt	0	(3,410)
Proceeds from loans payable	809,506	589,819
Debt issuance costs for loans payable	(2,058)	0
Repayments of Notes Payable	(633,593)	(687,740)
Repayments of Senior Debt	(350,000)	0
(Payments) proceeds from stock-based benefit plans	(1,831)	7,580
Purchase of treasury stock	(25,143)	(200,257)
Dividends paid	(16,369)	(12,293)
Investment received intercompany	0
Intercompany financing advances (to) from consolidated entities	0	0
Net cash provided by (used in) financing activities	(219,488)	93,699
Net increase (decrease) in cash and cash equivalents	(380,245)	(204,575)
Cash, Cash Equivalents, Restricted Cash and Restricted Cash Equivalents	802,694	510,736	$ 1,182,939	$ 715,311
Parent Company [Member]
Cash flow (used in) provided by operating activities:
Net Cash (Used in) Provided by Operating Activities, Continuing Operations	(33,260)	(67,018)
Cash flow (used in) provided by investing activities:
Purchase of property and equipment - net
Investments in and advances to unconsolidated entities
Return of investments in unconsolidated entities
Investment in distressed loans and foreclosed real estate
Return of investments in distressed loans and foreclosed real estate
Proceeds from sale of golf club property
Investments paid intercompany
Intercompany investing advances (to) from consolidated entities	76,603	271,988
Net cash provided by (used in) investing activities	76,603	271,988
Cash flow provided by (used in) financing activities:
Proceeds from issuance of senior notes
Payments of Debt Issuance Costs Senior Long Term Debt
Proceeds from loans payable
Debt issuance costs for loans payable
Repayments of Notes Payable
Repayments of Senior Debt
(Payments) proceeds from stock-based benefit plans	(1,831)	7,580
Purchase of treasury stock	(25,143)	(200,257)
Dividends paid	(16,369)	(12,293)
Investment received intercompany
Intercompany financing advances (to) from consolidated entities
Net cash provided by (used in) financing activities	(43,343)	(204,970)
Net increase (decrease) in cash and cash equivalents	0	0
Cash, Cash Equivalents, Restricted Cash and Restricted Cash Equivalents	0	0	0	0
Subsidiary Issuer [Member]
Cash flow (used in) provided by operating activities:
Net Cash (Used in) Provided by Operating Activities, Continuing Operations	4,268	1,894
Cash flow (used in) provided by investing activities:
Purchase of property and equipment - net
Investments in and advances to unconsolidated entities
Return of investments in unconsolidated entities
Investment in distressed loans and foreclosed real estate
Return of investments in distressed loans and foreclosed real estate
Proceeds from sale of golf club property
Investments paid intercompany
Intercompany investing advances (to) from consolidated entities	345,732	(398,484)
Net cash provided by (used in) investing activities	345,732	(398,484)
Cash flow provided by (used in) financing activities:
Proceeds from issuance of senior notes		400,000
Payments of Debt Issuance Costs Senior Long Term Debt		(3,410)
Proceeds from loans payable
Debt issuance costs for loans payable
Repayments of Notes Payable
Repayments of Senior Debt	(350,000)
(Payments) proceeds from stock-based benefit plans
Purchase of treasury stock
Dividends paid
Investment received intercompany
Intercompany financing advances (to) from consolidated entities
Net cash provided by (used in) financing activities	(350,000)	396,590
Net increase (decrease) in cash and cash equivalents	0	0
Cash, Cash Equivalents, Restricted Cash and Restricted Cash Equivalents	0	0	0	0
Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]
Cash flow (used in) provided by operating activities:
Net Cash (Used in) Provided by Operating Activities, Continuing Operations	(207,541)	(361,168)
Cash flow (used in) provided by investing activities:
Purchase of property and equipment - net	(19,707)	(741)
Investments in and advances to unconsolidated entities	(2,235)	(1,158)
Return of investments in unconsolidated entities		14,550
Investment in distressed loans and foreclosed real estate
Return of investments in distressed loans and foreclosed real estate
Proceeds from sale of golf club property
Investments paid intercompany	(20,000)
Intercompany investing advances (to) from consolidated entities
Net cash provided by (used in) investing activities	(41,942)	12,651
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Proceeds from issuance of senior notes
Payments of Debt Issuance Costs Senior Long Term Debt
Proceeds from loans payable	300,000	350,000
Debt issuance costs for loans payable	(2,058)
Repayments of Notes Payable	(48,222)	(366,120)
Repayments of Senior Debt
(Payments) proceeds from stock-based benefit plans
Purchase of treasury stock
Dividends paid
Investment received intercompany
Intercompany financing advances (to) from consolidated entities	(387,492)	176,261
Net cash provided by (used in) financing activities	(137,772)	160,141
Net increase (decrease) in cash and cash equivalents	(387,255)	(188,376)
Cash, Cash Equivalents, Restricted Cash and Restricted Cash Equivalents	624,612	346,328	1,011,867	534,704
Nonguarantor Subsidiaries [Member]
Cash flow (used in) provided by operating activities:
Net Cash (Used in) Provided by Operating Activities, Continuing Operations	60,699	99,347
Cash flow (used in) provided by investing activities:
Purchase of property and equipment - net	131	(953)
Investments in and advances to unconsolidated entities	(14,970)	(3,264)
Return of investments in unconsolidated entities	42,677	21,703
Investment in distressed loans and foreclosed real estate	(130)	(92)
Return of investments in distressed loans and foreclosed real estate	482	1,505
Proceeds from sale of golf club property	18,220
Investments paid intercompany
Intercompany investing advances (to) from consolidated entities
Net cash provided by (used in) investing activities	46,410	18,899
Cash flow provided by (used in) financing activities:
Proceeds from issuance of senior notes
Payments of Debt Issuance Costs Senior Long Term Debt
Proceeds from loans payable	509,506	239,819
Debt issuance costs for loans payable
Repayments of Notes Payable	(585,371)	(321,620)
Repayments of Senior Debt
(Payments) proceeds from stock-based benefit plans
Purchase of treasury stock
Dividends paid
Investment received intercompany	20,000
Intercompany financing advances (to) from consolidated entities	(44,234)	(52,644)
Net cash provided by (used in) financing activities	(100,099)	(134,445)
Net increase (decrease) in cash and cash equivalents	7,010	(16,199)
Cash, Cash Equivalents, Restricted Cash and Restricted Cash Equivalents	178,082	164,408	171,072	180,607
Eliminations [Member]
Cash flow (used in) provided by operating activities:
Net Cash (Used in) Provided by Operating Activities, Continuing Operations	(9,391)	(2,879)
Cash flow (used in) provided by investing activities:
Purchase of property and equipment - net
Investments in and advances to unconsolidated entities
Return of investments in unconsolidated entities
Investment in distressed loans and foreclosed real estate
Return of investments in distressed loans and foreclosed real estate
Proceeds from sale of golf club property
Investments paid intercompany	20,000
Intercompany investing advances (to) from consolidated entities	(422,335)	126,496
Net cash provided by (used in) investing activities	(402,335)	126,496
Cash flow provided by (used in) financing activities:
Proceeds from issuance of senior notes
Payments of Debt Issuance Costs Senior Long Term Debt
Proceeds from loans payable
Debt issuance costs for loans payable
Repayments of Notes Payable
Repayments of Senior Debt
(Payments) proceeds from stock-based benefit plans
Purchase of treasury stock
Dividends paid
Investment received intercompany	(20,000)
Intercompany financing advances (to) from consolidated entities	431,726	(123,617)
Net cash provided by (used in) financing activities	411,726	(123,617)
Net increase (decrease) in cash and cash equivalents	0	0
Cash, Cash Equivalents, Restricted Cash and Restricted Cash Equivalents	$ 0	$ 0	$ 0	$ 0