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Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 inventory fv) (Details 3)
$ in Thousands
3 Months Ended 12 Months Ended
Jan. 31, 2018
USD ($)
Oct. 31, 2017
USD ($)
Jul. 31, 2017
USD ($)
Apr. 30, 2017
USD ($)
Jan. 31, 2017
USD ($)
Oct. 31, 2017
USD ($)
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]            
Inventory Write-down $ 3,853       $ 4,661  
Operating communities [Member]            
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]            
Inventory Write-down $ 3,736         $ 9,795
Fair Value, Measurements, Nonrecurring [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 [Member] | Operating communities [Member]            
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]            
Number of Operating Communities Tested (in ones) 64 51 53 46 57  
Number of Communities Impaired (in ones) 5 1 4 6 2  
Fair Value Of Communities Net Of Impairment Charges $ 13,318 $ 6,982 $ 5,965 $ 25,092 $ 8,372 $ 6,982
Inventory Write-down $ 3,736 $ 1,500 $ 1,360 $ 2,935 $ 4,000