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Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 loan UPB vs FV) (Details 1) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
Oct. 31, 2017
Oct. 31, 2016
Aggregate unpaid principal and fair value of mortgage loans held for sale    
Mortgage Loans on Real Estate, Commercial and Consumer, Net $ 132,922 $ 248,601
Fair Value, Measurements, Recurring [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Assets Held-for-sale [Member] | Residential Mortgage [Member]    
Aggregate unpaid principal and fair value of mortgage loans held for sale    
Loans Receivable Held-for-sale, Amount 131,861 246,794
Mortgage Loans on Real Estate, Commercial and Consumer, Net 132,922 248,601
Fair Value, Option, Aggregate Differences, Loans and Long-term Receivables $ 1,061 $ 1,807