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Loans Payable, Senior Notes, and Mortgage Company Loan Facility Loans Payable - other (Details 2) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
12 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2016
Oct. 31, 2015
Sep. 05, 2012
Debt Instrument [Line Items]      
Other Loans Payable $ 122,809 $ 151,702  
Debt, Weighted Average Interest Rate 3.99% 3.78%  
Debt Instrument, Interest Rate, Stated Percentage     0.50%
Loans secured by assets [Abstract]      
Secured Debt $ 122,570 $ 151,702  
Value of Assets Securing Loans $ 461,162 $ 378,864  
Loans Payable Contractual Maturities Term Minimum 3 months    
Loans Payable Contractual Maturities Term Maximum 30 years    
Minimum [Member]      
Debt Instrument [Line Items]      
Debt Instrument, Interest Rate, Stated Percentage 0.78% 0.15%  
Maximum [Member]      
Debt Instrument [Line Items]      
Debt Instrument, Interest Rate, Stated Percentage 7.87% 7.87%