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Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 loan UPB vs FV) (Details 1) (USD $)
In Thousands, unless otherwise specified
Apr. 30, 2015
Oct. 31, 2014
Aggregate unpaid principal and fair value of mortgage loans held for sale    
Mortgage Loans on Real Estate, Commercial and Consumer, Net $ 80,864us-gaap_MortgageLoansOnRealEstateCommercialAndConsumerNet $ 101,944us-gaap_MortgageLoansOnRealEstateCommercialAndConsumerNet
Fair Value, Measurements, Recurring [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Assets Held-for-sale [Member] | Residential Mortgage [Member]    
Aggregate unpaid principal and fair value of mortgage loans held for sale    
Aggregate unpaid principal balance 79,984us-gaap_LoansReceivableHeldForSaleAmount
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100,463us-gaap_LoansReceivableHeldForSaleAmount
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Mortgage Loans on Real Estate, Commercial and Consumer, Net 80,864us-gaap_MortgageLoansOnRealEstateCommercialAndConsumerNet
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101,944us-gaap_MortgageLoansOnRealEstateCommercialAndConsumerNet
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Fair Value, Option, Aggregate Differences, Loans and Long-term Receivables $ 880us-gaap_FairValueOptionAggregateDifferencesLoansAndLongTermReceivables
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$ 1,481us-gaap_FairValueOptionAggregateDifferencesLoansAndLongTermReceivables
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