Supplemental Guarantor Information Supplemental Guarantor Information (Level 4 New Guaranor Information) (Details 1) (Details) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified	3 Months Ended		9 Months Ended
	Jul. 31, 2013	Jul. 31, 2012	Jul. 31, 2013	Jul. 31, 2012	Oct. 31, 2012
Inventory, Operative Builders	$ 4,517,008		$ 4,517,008		$ 3,761,187
Investments in and Advance to Affiliates, Subsidiaries, Associates, and Joint Ventures	356,837		356,837		330,617
Assets	6,787,543		6,787,543		6,181,044
Loans Payable	97,679		97,679		99,817
Advances from Affiliiate	0		0		0
Liabilities	3,571,215		3,571,215		3,053,173
Stockholders' Equity, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest	3,216,328		3,216,328		3,127,871
Revenue	689,160	554,319	1,629,765	1,249,955
Operating loss	55,201	31,499	72,259	10,813
Income before income taxes	68,253	42,952	117,547	52,193
New Guarantors [Member]
Inventory, Operative Builders					212,504
Investments in and Advance to Affiliates, Subsidiaries, Associates, and Joint Ventures					110,014
Assets					326,924
Loans Payable					30,424
Advances from Affiliiate					281,584
Liabilities					322,024
Stockholders' Equity, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest					4,900
Revenue		0		0
Operating loss		(508)		(1,294)
Income before income taxes		$ 1,232		$ 273