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ACCESSION NUMBER:		0000902561-03-000327
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	4
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20030512
FILED AS OF DATE:		20030711

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			FAHNESTOCK VINER HOLDINGS INC
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000791963
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	SECURITY BROKERS, DEALERS & FLOTATION COMPANIES [6211]
		IRS NUMBER:				980080034
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		SUITE 1110, P.O. BOX 2015
		STREET 2:		20 EGLINTON AVE. WEST
		CITY:			TORONTO ONTARIO CANADA
		STATE:			A0
		ZIP:			M4R 1K8
		BUSINESS PHONE:		(416)322-1515

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		PO BOX 2015 SUITE 1110
		STREET 2:		20 EGLINTON AVENUE WEST
		CITY:			TORONTO ONTARIO CANADA
		STATE:			A6
		ZIP:			M4R 1K8

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	VINER E A HOLDINGS LTD
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19880622

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	GOLDALE INVESTMENTS LTD
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19861030

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			CANADIAN IMPERIAL BANK OF COMMERCE /CAN/
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001045520
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	COMMERCIAL BANKS, NEC [6029]
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1031

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		4
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	001-12043
		FILM NUMBER:		03783791

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		PO BOX 770, SUITE 4440
		STREET 2:		BCE PLACE, 181 BAY STREET
		CITY:			TORONTO ONTARIO
		STATE:			A6
		BUSINESS PHONE:		2128563612

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		COMMERCE CT
		CITY:			TORONTO ONTARIO
		STATE:			A6
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        <transactionDate>
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    <footnotes>
        <footnote id="F1">Convertible Debenture Due 2006 issued by E. A. Viner International Co., a subsidiary of Fahnestock Viner Holdings, Inc.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F2">On May 12, 2003, the shareholders of Fahnestock Viner Holdings, Inc. voted to approve the conversion of the Convertible Debenture Due 2006, dated January 6, 2003 (the &quot;Convertible Debenture&quot;), into the Second Variable Rate Exchangeable Debenture Due 2013 (the &quot;Second Exchangeable Debenture&quot;) and the Convertible Debenture was thereby converted automatically in accordance with its terms.  The Convertible Debenture had been issued by E. A. Viner International Co. (the &quot;Company&quot;), a subsidiary of Fahnestock Viner Holdings, Inc., to Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (&quot;Holder&quot;) to fund a portion of the purchase price paid to purchase the Oppenheimer &amp; Co. division business from CIBC World Markets Corp. on January 2, 2003.  (Continued in Footnote (3).)</footnote>
        <footnote id="F3">The conversion of the Convertible Debenture into the Second Exchangeable Debenture required shareholder approval.  Had shareholder approval not been obtained, the Convertible Debenture would have born interest at a rate of 9.75% from its date of issue and would have matured on January 6, 2006.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F4">Second Variable Rate Exchangeable Debenture Due 2013 issued by E. A. Viner International Co., a subsidiary of Fahnestock Viner Holdings, Inc.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F5">The initial conversion price is $23.20 per Class A Share and is subject to customary anti-dilution adjustments.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F6">Holder may, at its option, exchange the principal amount of the Second Exchangeable Debenture (or any portion thereof equal to $1,000 or any integral multiple of $1,000 in excess thereof) for Class A Shares at the exchange price then in effect at any time prior to:  (i) the close of business on July 2, 2012, (ii) the delivery to the Company of a notice of its intention to require the Company to redeem the Second Exchangeable Debenture prior to a put date or after a put event in accordance with the terms of the Second Exchangeable Debenture, or (iii) the delivery to the Holder of a notice that Fahnestock Viner Holdings Inc. continues to be deemed a BHC Subsidiary of Holder after a certain period of time in accordance with the terms of the Second Exchangeable Debenture.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F7">The Holder holds two Variable Rate Exchangeable Debentures Due 2013.  The number of Class A Shares issuable upon exchange of each of these Debentures is determined by dividing the principal amount of such Debentures or portion thereof by the conversion price.  The principal amount may be increased by the amount of any accrued but unpaid interest thereon.  The initial Variable Rate Exchangeable Debenture Due 2013 is dated January 6, 2003 and is exchangeable for 3,016,415 Class A Shares (as reported on a Form 3 dated January 9, 2003).  The Second Exchangeable Debenture (reported herein) is exchangeable for 3,915,585 Class A Shares.  Together, the two Variable Rate Exchangeable Debentures Due 2013 are exchangeable for 6,932,000 Class A Shares.</footnote>
    </footnotes>

    <ownerSignature>
        <signatureName>/s/ Antonio Molestina, Senior Vice President on behalf of Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce</signatureName>
        <signatureDate>2003-07-02</signatureDate>
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