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Other Income and Other Expense (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
3 Months Ended 9 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2025
Sep. 30, 2024
Sep. 30, 2025
Sep. 30, 2024
Other income:        
Interest income $ 4,730 $ 6,368 $ 14,986 $ 19,324
Investment gain — net 6,259 0 23,747 0
Gain on sale of BCE (Note 19) 0 0 0 22,988
Miscellaneous 1,484 406 3,305 922
Total other income 12,473 6,774 42,038 43,234
Other expense:        
Non-operating costs (5,067) (1,362) (10,541) (9,551)
Investment losses — net 0 0 0 (1,242)
Miscellaneous (3,092) (2,651) (4,447) (3,787)
Total other expense (8,159) (4,013) (14,988) (14,580)
APS        
Other income:        
Interest income 3,710 4,921 12,991 16,319
Miscellaneous 21 (42) 136 6
Total other income 3,731 4,879 13,127 16,325
Other expense:        
Non-operating costs (4,573) (2,896) (9,441) (7,548)
Miscellaneous (892) (450) (2,247) (1,586)
Total other expense $ (5,465) $ (3,346) $ (11,688) $ (9,134)