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Other Income and Other Expense (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
3 Months Ended 6 Months Ended
Jun. 30, 2025
Jun. 30, 2024
Jun. 30, 2025
Jun. 30, 2024
Other income:        
Interest income $ 4,260 $ 5,396 $ 10,256 $ 12,956
Investment gain — net 6,504 0 17,488 0
Gain on sale of BCE (Note 18) 0 0 0 22,988
Miscellaneous 1,340 489 1,821 548
Total other income 12,104 5,885 29,565 36,492
Other expense:        
Non-operating costs (3,245) (2,038) (5,474) (8,188)
Investment losses — net 0 (497) 0 (1,274)
Miscellaneous (1,014) (497) (1,355) (1,137)
Total other expense (4,259) (3,032) (6,829) (10,599)
APS        
Other income:        
Interest income 3,674 4,602 9,281 11,398
Miscellaneous 0 (11) 115 48
Total other income 3,674 4,591 9,396 11,446
Other expense:        
Non-operating costs (2,876) (2,397) (4,868) (4,652)
Miscellaneous (1,014) (497) (1,355) (1,136)
Total other expense $ (3,890) $ (2,894) $ (6,223) $ (5,788)