Segment Data - Components of Loss before Income Taxes Included in Other (Details) - USD ($) $ in Thousands	3 Months Ended		9 Months Ended
	Aug. 04, 2017	Jul. 29, 2016	Aug. 04, 2017	Jul. 29, 2016
Components of the loss before income taxes included in "Other"
Interest expense, net	$ (4,750)	$ (4,646)	$ (14,309)	$ (14,021)
Other	(5,349)	(3,480)	(12,916)	(11,865)
Earnings before income taxes	88,383	80,787	306,257	288,726
Other
Components of the loss before income taxes included in "Other"
Corporate expenses	(22,174)	(19,903)	(72,385)	(68,270)
Interest expense, net	(4,750)	(4,646)	(14,309)	(14,021)
Other	(6,579)	(3,473)	(15,441)	(14,212)
Earnings before income taxes	$ (20,345)	$ (21,076)	$ (71,253)	$ (68,079)