Segment Data - Components of Loss before Income Taxes Included in Other (Details) - USD ($) $ in Thousands	3 Months Ended		6 Months Ended
	May 05, 2017	Apr. 29, 2016	May 05, 2017	Apr. 29, 2016
Components of the loss before income taxes included in "Other"
Interest expense, net	$ (4,676)	$ (4,721)	$ (9,559)	$ (9,375)
Other	3,701	3,873	7,567	8,385
Earnings before income taxes	158,321	154,242	217,874	207,939
Other
Components of the loss before income taxes included in "Other"
Corporate expenses	(26,250)	(23,584)	(50,211)	(48,367)
Interest expense, net	(4,676)	(4,721)	(9,559)	(9,375)
Other	5,189	5,936	8,862	10,739
Earnings before income taxes	$ (25,737)	$ (22,369)	$ (50,908)	$ (47,003)