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Income Taxes Rate Reconciliation (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2016
Sep. 30, 2015
Sep. 30, 2014
Effective Income Tax Rate Reconciliation, Amount [Abstract]      
Tax at statutory rate of 35% $ 189,764 $ 173,310 $ 155,730
Common stock dividends deductible for tax reporting (2,570) (2,413) (2,307)
State taxes (net of federal benefit) 11,133 12,289 10,566
Change in valuation allowance 1,324 4,998 6,969
Other, net (3,009) 1,365 3,654
Income tax expense (benefit) $ 196,642 $ 189,549 $ 174,612