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Income Taxes Rate Reconciliation (Details) (USD $)
In Thousands, unless otherwise specified
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2013
Sep. 30, 2012
Sep. 30, 2011
Effective Income Tax Rate Reconciliation, Amount [Abstract]      
Tax at statutory rate of 35% $ 130,655 $ 101,648 $ 103,743
Common stock dividends deductible for tax reporting (2,153) (2,096) (1,930)
Penalties 153 66 2,292
Recognition (settlement) of uncertain tax positions 1,341 1,831 (4,950)
State taxes (net of federal benefit) 10,687 (5,958) 8,109
Other, net 1,916 2,735 (445)
Income tax expense (benefit) $ 142,599 $ 98,226 $ 106,819