Operating Segments (Details 1) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified	3 Months Ended
	Jan. 31, 2012	Jan. 31, 2011
Total consolidated income before income taxes
Total profit for reportable segments	$ 56,487	$ 65,524
Interest expense	(1,968)	(1,395)
Interest and investment income	119	125
Other - net	992	936
Income before income taxes	$ 55,630	$ 65,190