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Income taxes (Details 2) (USD $)
In Thousands, unless otherwise specified
12 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2011
Oct. 31, 2010
Oct. 31, 2009
Income taxes computed at the U.S. statutory rate and income tax      
Tax at statutory rate of 35% $ 110,096 $ 80,962 $ (44,517)
Impact of goodwill charge     79,064
Domestic Production Deduction (5,530) (1,737) (1,134)
Foreign tax rate variances, net of foreign tax credits (7,906) (10,550) 1,279
State and local taxes, net of federal income tax benefit 1,310 (1,828) 1,160
Tax expense related to tax law change   5,249  
Tax benefit from sale of UV product lines   (10,243)  
Amounts related to prior years (4,123) 776 (3,283)
Other - net (1,650) 642 295
Total income tax expense $ 92,197 $ 63,271 $ 32,864