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Comprehensive income (Details) (USD $)
In Thousands
3 Months Ended 9 Months Ended
Jul. 31, 2011
Jul. 31, 2010
Jul. 31, 2011
Jul. 31, 2010
Summary of comprehensive income        
Net income $ 56,550 $ 55,329 $ 167,689 $ 114,492
Foreign currency translation adjustments (2,053) (126) 12,792 (27,044)
Remeasurement of supplemental pension liability       (2,746)
Settlement loss       5,014
Amortization of prior service cost and net actuarial losses 1,527 1,158 4,498 4,962
Comprehensive income 56,024 56,361 184,979 94,678
Components of activity for accumulated other comprehensive income        
Beginning Balance     (66,306) (55,470)
Current-period change     17,290 (19,814)
Ending Balance $ (49,016) $ (75,284) $ (49,016) $ (75,284)