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Fair value measurements (Tables)
9 Months Ended
Jul. 31, 2011
Fair value measurements (Tables) [Abstract]  
Schedule of assets and liabilities measured at fair value on recurring basis
                                 
    Total     Level 1     Level 2     Level 3  
 
Assets:
                               
Rabbi trust (a)
  $ 13,897     $     $ 13,897     $  
Forward exchange contracts (b)
    3,986             3,986        
 
Total assets at fair value
  $ 17,883     $     $ 17,883     $  
 
 
Liabilities:
                               
Deferred compensation plans (c)
  $ 6,240     $ 6,240     $     $  
Forward exchange contracts (b)
    416             416        
 
Total liabilities at fair value
  $ 6,656     $ 6,240     $ 416     $