Significant accounting policies - Additional Information (Detail) - shares shares in Thousands	3 Months Ended	9 Months Ended
Jul. 31, 2024	Jul. 31, 2023	Jul. 31, 2024	Jul. 31, 2023
Significant Accounting Policies [Line Items]
Less than 50% Ownership Percentage, Accounted for under the Equity Method of Investment	50.00%		50.00%
Stock Options
Significant Accounting Policies [Line Items]
Options for common shares excluded from computation of diluted earning per share (in shares)	74	138	74	141

Securities (including those issuable pursuant to contingent stock agreements) that could potentially dilute basic earnings per share (EPS) or earnings per unit (EPU) in the future that were not included in the computation of diluted EPS or EPU because to do so would increase EPS or EPU amounts or decrease loss per share or unit amounts for the period presented.

Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/disclosureRef
-Topic 260
-SubTopic 10
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Section 50
-Paragraph 1
-Subparagraph (c)
-Publisher FASB
-URI https://asc.fasb.org/1943274/2147482662/260-10-50-1

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