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ACCESSION NUMBER:		0001209191-09-043515
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	4
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20090903
FILED AS OF DATE:		20090908
DATE AS OF CHANGE:		20090908

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			ROHR JAMES E
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001194846

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		4
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	001-09718
		FILM NUMBER:		091058255

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		249 FIFTH AVE
		STREET 2:		P1-POPP-30-1
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000713676
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	NATIONAL COMMERCIAL BANKS [6021]
		IRS NUMBER:				251435979
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			PA
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVENUE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222
		BUSINESS PHONE:		412-762-2000

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVENUE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930505

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930428

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC FINANCIAL CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930412
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        <footnote id="F1">One share unit is the economic equivalent of one share of The PNC Financial Services Group, Inc. (&quot;PNC&quot;) Common Stock.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F2">The shares units represent a portion of the reporting person's salary, net withholdings and deductions, for the most recent pay period and were issued under PNC's 2006 Incentive Award Plan.  The price per share unit is equal to the last reported closing price for PNC stock on the pay date for the most recent pay period.  For more information, please see the Current Report on Form 8-K filed by PNC on August 21, 2009.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F3">Share units will be settled in cash on March 31, 2011.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F4">One phantom stock unit is the economic equivalent of one share of The PNC Financial Services Group, Inc. (&quot;PNC&quot;) Common Stock.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F5">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under the PNC Deferred Compensation Plan.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F6">Phantom Stock Units will be settled in cash upon distribution from the reporting person's plan account and generally do not expire.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F7">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under the PNC Supplemental Incentive Savings Plan.</footnote>
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