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ACCESSION NUMBER:		0001209191-07-065807
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	4
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20070622
FILED AS OF DATE:		20071121
DATE AS OF CHANGE:		20071121

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000713676
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	NATIONAL COMMERCIAL BANKS [6021]
		IRS NUMBER:				251435979
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			PA
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVENUE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222
		BUSINESS PHONE:		412-762-2000

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVENUE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930505

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930428

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC FINANCIAL CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930412

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			SHEPARD DONALD J
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001237373

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		4
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	001-09718
		FILM NUMBER:		071264170

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		C/O CSX CORP
		STREET 2:		500 WATER STREET 15TH FLOOR
		CITY:			JACKSONVILLE
		STATE:			FL
		ZIP:			32202
		BUSINESS PHONE:		9043593200
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                <value>2007-11-20</value>
            </exerciseDate>
            <expirationDate>
                <value>2007-11-20</value>
            </expirationDate>
            <underlyingSecurity>
                <underlyingSecurityTitle>
                    <value>$5 Par Common Stock</value>
                </underlyingSecurityTitle>
                <underlyingSecurityShares>
                    <value>220</value>
                </underlyingSecurityShares>
            </underlyingSecurity>
            <postTransactionAmounts>
                <sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
                    <value>8708</value>
                </sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
            </postTransactionAmounts>
            <ownershipNature>
                <directOrIndirectOwnership>
                    <value>I</value>
                </directOrIndirectOwnership>
                <natureOfOwnership>
                    <value>Deferred Compensation Plan</value>
                </natureOfOwnership>
            </ownershipNature>
        </derivativeTransaction>
    </derivativeTable>

    <footnotes>
        <footnote id="F1">Each share of phantom stock was the economic equivalent of one share of PNC common stock.  The reporting person settled his shares of phantom stock for shares of PNC common stock.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F2">One phantom stock unit is the economic equivalent of one share of PNC Common Stock.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F3">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under the PNC Outside Directors Deferred Stock Unit Plan.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F4">Phantom Stock Units will be settled in cash upon distribution from the reporting person's plan account and generally do not expire.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F5">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under the former Mercantile Directors Deferred Compensation Plan.</footnote>
    </footnotes>

    <remarks></remarks>

    <ownerSignature>
        <signatureName>Lori A. Hasselman, Attorney-in-Fact for Donald J. Shepard</signatureName>
        <signatureDate>2007-11-21</signatureDate>
    </ownerSignature>
</ownershipDocument>
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