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<SEC-DOCUMENT>0001209191-05-000821.txt : 20050104
<SEC-HEADER>0001209191-05-000821.hdr.sgml : 20050104
<ACCEPTANCE-DATETIME>20050104154508
ACCESSION NUMBER:		0001209191-05-000821
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	4
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20041231
FILED AS OF DATE:		20050104
DATE AS OF CHANGE:		20050104

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			PEPPER JANE G
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001196960

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		4
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	001-09718
		FILM NUMBER:		05507127

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		PENNSYLVANIA HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY
		STREET 2:		100 N 20TH ST FTH FLR
		CITY:			PHILADELPHIA
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			19103

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000713676
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	NATIONAL COMMERCIAL BANKS [6021]
		IRS NUMBER:				251435979
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			PA
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVENUE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222
		BUSINESS PHONE:		412-762-2000

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVENUE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930505

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930428

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC FINANCIAL CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930412
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        <footnote id="F2">1 for 1.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F3">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under the PNC Directors Deferred Compensation Plan.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F4">Phantom Stock Units will be settled in cash upon distribution from the reporting person's plan account and generally do not expire.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F5">Phantom Stock Units received under the PNC Directors Deferred Compensation Plan.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F6">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under the PNC Outside Directors Deferred Stock Unit Plan.</footnote>
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