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Segments (Narrative) (Details) (USD $)
In Thousands, unless otherwise specified
12 Months Ended
Oct. 01, 2011
Oct. 02, 2010
Oct. 03, 2009
Revenue, Major Customer [Line Items]   
Percentage of aftermarket sale in commercial production segment 36.00% 
Sales arising from U.S. Government prime or sub-contracts, including military sales to Boeing$ 738,429$ 740,701$ 705,145
Boeing [Member]
   
Revenue, Major Customer [Line Items]   
Sales to Boeing and Boeing Commercial Airplanes229,825206,775 
Percentage of sales to Boeing10.00%10.00% 
Boeing Commercial Airplanes [Member]
   
Revenue, Major Customer [Line Items]   
Sales to Boeing and Boeing Commercial Airplanes$ 110,802$ 91,112