Pension Plans (Details) (USD $)	3 Months Ended
	Feb. 04, 2012	Jan. 29, 2011
Net periodic pension cost
Service cost	$ 1,991,000	$ 2,224,000
Interest cost	2,764,000	2,753,000
Expected return on plan assets	(2,649,000)	(2,645,000)
Amortization of initial net obligation	5,000	4,000
Amortization of net loss	89,000	393,000
Net periodic pension cost	2,200,000	2,729,000
Pension Plans (Textual) [Abstract]
Pension contributions	2,600,000
Additional contribution to defined benefit pension plans	8,200,000
Total contribution to defined benefit pension plans for entire current fiscal year	$ 10,800,000